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baribari

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I might send you a private video once I can edit on a power overlay.

I did 310 ish for 21 minutes or so and then 296 or so for 22 minutes or so. I got 2nd out of five in my class (BMI 26+) but lost by about four minutes in total and only got 2nd by three seconds…. I flogged my self proper for the first run, but my legs were fried and I popped in the last kilo or so in the second.

My throat is wrecked, hahaha.

My Garnin bumped my FTP up to 294.
Also, I ways also NOT looking forward to the second run...
If I had done the "heavyweight" class (90.7 kg+) instead of the BMI class, I still would have placed second, by a smaller margin, although only out of four riders.
 

OreoCookie

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Congrats on the race outcomes. Getting close to 300 W FTP is a nice achievement.

And no need to diminish your achievements, many sports have age/weight brackets for a reason. You don't need to conform to some stereotype to be an athlete.
 

baribari

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Thanks. To have beaten the guy in first I would have needed to lose 10 kg and gain 20 watts. He was right at ~4.0 versus my ~3.4.
I think he was probably quite a bit younger than me, though. I wouldn't have been in the same class if I was 10 kg lighter, though. Haha.
 

andywood

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Also, I ways also NOT looking forward to the second run...
If I had done the "heavyweight" class (90.7 kg+) instead of the BMI class, I still would have placed second, by a smaller margin, although only out of four riders.

How was your performance in the 2nd heat compared to the 1st?

Back in the day, the JBCF Tsugaike Hillclimb was a mass start in the morning in each category.

The fastest 100 overall, regardless of category, rode a solo TT up the same climb in the afternoon. A chance to race the pros.

I could always go well in the first heat. Best around 25th overall, paced with a first generation Polar chain based power meter, but I'd never break top 90 in the 2nd heat. Onsen, nap, massage, nothing seemed to work!

Andy
 

andywood

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After what seems like weeks of endless sunshine, we got some rain last week. Today the temperature dropped from 25 to 10!

Will be resubscribing to Zwift soon...

The weekly training blog link and cut and paste below.

Cheers, Andy


「making training count」

more running, intervals, hiking and cyclocross last week
先週もランニング、インターバル、ハイキング、シクロクロスをロックオンしました

less free time as I have to look after a new teacher
and we prepare to move into a new home
新しい先生の面倒を見ること
新しい家に引っ越す準備をすること
いつもよりトレーニングタイムがない

but a run takes 30 minutes
intervals take 60
both do damage
so 2 rest days aren't wasted
でも、ランなら30分があれば大丈夫
インターバルなら60分があれば大丈夫
両方ともダメージがあるから
2日の休みがあれば大丈夫

☆Monday: intervals & run
☆Tuesday: rest
☆Wednesday: intervals & run
☆Thursday: rest
☆Friday: mt. yoneyama bike & hike
☆Saturday: mt. hachikoku bike & hike
☆Sunday: cyclocross race pace

I put CX tyres on for today's CX training
next sunday's rai rai cup will be a good test
ready for iiyama CX the following week
今日のCXトレーニングのためにCXタイヤをセットしました
来週のライライカップはレースペースで走って
再来週の飯山CXのタイミングで調子が出ると良い

2 weeks to race day!
レースまで2週間!

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#ajocc
 

baribari

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How was your performance in the 2nd heat compared to the 1st?

Back in the day, the JBCF Tsugaike Hillclimb was a mass start in the morning in each category.

The fastest 100 overall, regardless of category, rode a solo TT up the same climb in the afternoon. A chance to race the pros.

I could always go well in the first heat. Best around 25th overall, paced with a first generation Polar chain based power meter, but I'd never break top 90 in the 2nd heat. Onsen, nap, massage, nothing seemed to work!

Andy
About 15 watts lower. My legs hurt too much to push as hard. Every ride since then, my Garmin keeps trying to edge my FTP downwards... Fortunately I was fast enough in the first heat to juuuuust barely get 2nd of five... And would have had the exact same result in the Heavy class, albeit with a slightly larger safety margin. I had originally hoped I'd drop enough weigh to go DOWN a class.
 

OreoCookie

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@baribari
How was the atmosphere of the event? It seems that hill climb TTs are by far the most fun events.

I have had a good first week of training. I opted for a polarized TR plan to try them out. The emphasis on endurance is just what this doctor has ordered. And I lost less ponies than expected (342 W —> 328 W after 3 weeks of no training and just a few rides).
 

baribari

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@baribari
How was the atmosphere of the event? It seems that hill climb TTs are by far the most fun events.

I have had a good first week of training. I opted for a polarized TR plan to try them out. The emphasis on endurance is just what this doctor has ordered. And I lost less ponies than expected (342 W —> 328 W after 3 weeks of no training and just a few rides).
Lots of fun. Hill climbs are the least serious road event. I think off road events are probably even more load back...
 

OreoCookie

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Lots of fun. Hill climbs are the least serious road event. I think off road events are probably even more load back...
I also like that they are the events with the lowest risk. Drafting is of much less use and it is mostly about pacing yourself. I really wish I could have done a hill climb this season … just wasn't in it Covid-, stress- and financial-wise.
 

andywood

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Lots of fun. Hill climbs are the least serious road event. I think off road events are probably even more load back...

Offroad events, especially if based on segments, are definitely the most relaxed.

The whirring of rollers, the psssssss of tyres and the smell of embrocation replaced by the smell of toast and coffee, and the sound of stress free chatting.

I like hillclimbs but in recent years, lining your bikes up 1h before a start to secure a good position is as annoying as towels on sun loungers at night in Benidorm!

But yeah, being able to ride while socializing and contesting segments, before regrouping, is an attractive format for me these days...

Andy
 

andywood

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Another week of training done. The training at this time of year is vastly different to the spring and summer. Intervals, running, CX and hiking to maintain stamina and add balanced strength work. Still not as sharp as I want to be, but getting there...

The usual training blog link and cut and paste below.

Cheers, Andy.


「race face」

more running, intervals, hiking and cyclocross last week
it's deja vu!
still routine is one of the most important components of good training
先週はランニング、インターバル、ハイキング、シクロクロス···
デジャヴだ~!
でも良いトレーニングの必要なことの1つはルーチンです

again not much volume
but I have a big base
specificity is important
またボリュームはぜんぜんないけど
大きなベースが作ってあるを信じて
特異性がメインになります

☆Monday: run + road, ishikawa pass x 5, intervals & SFR
☆Tuesday: road, mt. ogami
☆Wednesday: run
☆Thursday: rollers intervals
☆Friday: mt. kurohime and mt. hachikoku bike & hike
☆Saturday: rollers recovery
☆Sunday: cyclocross race pace

the rai rai cup today
3 laps of the super long course
今日のライライカップでした
スーパーロングコースx3周

☆lap 1 17:03
☆lap 2 17:19
☆lap 3 18:11

good pace on the first lap despite clipping out 3 times
I can't stay in the zone though
and consequently can't keep the pace either
3回クリップアウトしても1周目は良いペース
そのあとゾーンから落ちて
ペースも落ちる

next week will be a 30 minute effort
I need to be fresher
physically and mentally
来週は30分の勝負です
もっと良いコンディションを出したいです
フィジカルとメンタルも!

time to find my race face!
1 week to race day!
レースフェイスを見つける時間です!
レース当日まで1週間!

#berdspokes #astutowheels #teamimezi #imezi #imezi167 #167grv #imezisealant #プロジェクト167 #exlub #cycleshopjyonnobitime #akagioffroadenduro #raphaprestige #grinduro #gfmyoko #nobeyamagravelchallenge
#ajocc
 
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