Synthetic knee fluid

fredstaple

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Anyone here with knee pain tried a series of injections of Synthetic knee fluid? Know everyone is different, but would be interested in knowing if these helped you and the immediate impact on your cycling after receiving, e.g. How much time off after the injection?
 

FarEast

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Yes, although im not sure if what you want is what I'm taking. - Im currently undergoing weekly treatment with Hyaluronic Acid and Collagen.

Zero time off after these two injections, in fact I normally have mine the day before racing and go riding pretty much straight after to get the fluid fully circulated within the knee cavity, both recommended by the doctor.

It feels like you have a knee cavity full of jelly for the first couple of minutes but Im really finding it a huge help. Also if you are under 40 neither injection is covered by national/private insurance. However due to the HUGE amount of the aging population taking them they are about 1,200 Yen per injection, so pretty cheap.

Also have you checked all avenues to mae sure that you actually need these injections? Such as intensive fitting by a Pro, MRI to see if there is any underlying issues with the knee such a "mouse on the knee" or other medical issues that may need surgery or other corrective meeasures?
I had extensive MRI, X-ray on my knees and consulted with a professional sports doctor that deals specifically with cyclists (Keirin riders) I was diagnosed with a sever deformity that was causing the knee cap, tibia and patella to rub together and reducing the protective coating of the bones to mush….. basically from braking my knee and then made worse by fracturing the medial tibia and then continuing to finish the race on it last year ( I did win, so worth it :D )
 

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Basically what I'm saying is that these treatments are for after you have worked out and been treated for the underlying issue that is causing the pain, then the injections are basically to help aid recovery of the joint protection.

In my case, custom wedges in my right shoe to balance the tibia and fibula discrepancies, then treatment for the bone bruising and then finally the injections to help the body rebuild and protect the joints.
 
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I had a body alignment done at the gym today...I'm built like a crooked corkscrew...
Still having a terrible time with my knee recovery...highlighted by a scare this morning...after a long walk I took a stride a bit longer than usual and immediately felt my new ACL area start to feel unstable. (right knee joint). It's amazing how quickly the brain calculates that if I bust this new ACL I'll be in hospital again for another operation etc etc etc.... within a fraction of a second my good leg threw me into the air for a complete forward ninja roll. (to the delight of people walking along Meiji dori). My bag and keitai went flying. I got up, collected my things...apologized to a couple and kept walking...

Not sure this fluid stuff will help me.

But interested in learning more about it...

And the lady at the gym told me my bad new leg has 1kg more muscle on it than my good leg. So, I'll be having a word with my physio guy. The hospital rehabs seem to be a bit behind the times with actually knowing the composition of their patients. Physio just works on my injury nothing else.
The gym will sort that out.

I wouldn't want to get into the habit of having injections all the time if there is a natural way of dealing with the problems.
 

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The injections are for building cartilage and collagen around the bones and increasing the fluid in the knee cavity to stop the bones from rubbing against each other, nothing more and unless you have a degenerative disorder with your knee these kind of injections won’t do anything to help – In fact they could worsen an issue such as floating patella and so on.

Thus why I’m recommending that Fred consults with a specialist and talks with a professional bike fitter that knows their stuff before seeing medical treatment. Find out what is causing the pain and why then receive treatment or alterations to stop it from happening.
 

fredstaple

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Thanks for the info, very helpful. I have had 20 plus years of knee pain and have done all the steps up to this point, no more rugby, long distance running, bike fitting, PT, etc. loss ofcartilage in the knee most likely the cause of the pain. I am going to try the shots under the advice of my doc and Orthopedic surgeon and hope this relieves some of the issues.
 

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Thanks for the info, very helpful. I have had 20 plus years of knee pain and have done all the steps up to this point, no more rugby, long distance running, bike fitting, PT, etc. loss ofcartilage in the knee most likely the cause of the pain. I am going to try the shots under the advice of my doc and Orthopedic surgeon and hope this relieves some of the issues.
If they are suggesting it then go for it! If you are not hydrating properly you may get "lizard skin" so buy some good moisteriser and hydrate.