Ride SAT, May 18th - Otsuki 5 Monsters (Climb, Climb, Climb - Happy, Happy, Happy)

Stormy

Speeding Up
Aug 2, 2012
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#1
Hi all,

this is the first ride I am posting and it is an exciting one. Something for the slow speed riders (aka climbing friends). I promise you will see amazing things and have burning legs.

INFO:
Style: WATT and there will be options to pull out if needed.
Meet Time and Place: 8am at Otsuki station - I will be taking the 7am Ltd express Super Azusa 1 from Shinjuku Station
Climbing: >4,500m (it could be >5,000m)
Distance: 145km
Route: Here

Important: The backside of Otone Pass is pretty rough (i.e. a few sections are ridable). So, pls bring a spare tire (and tubes, of course) just in case.

I will be pushing constant power at manageable speed. I am not one of the fast climbers but pretty endurant. Weather looks promising, i.e. not too hot.

Hope you guys are joining,
Norman
 

bird

Speeding Up
Nov 30, 2010
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Kawasaki
#5
Great plan with nasty backside of Otoge!

Last year when I climbed from the backside, sidewall of my Conti GP4000S tyre was cut during climb and I rode slowly with flat rear tyre, including the long (but slow) downhill to Otsuki. After that ride I quit using GP4000S and switched to GatorSkins, never to return.

Unfortunately I can't join this Saturday, but wish you will have better luck than me.

Eugen
 

leicaman

Maximum Pace
Sep 20, 2012
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2,247
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Asakadai, Saitama
#6
Great plan with nasty backside of Otoge!

Last year when I climbed from the backside, sidewall of my Conti GP4000S tyre was cut during climb and I rode slowly with flat rear tyre, including the long (but slow) downhill to Otsuki. After that ride I quit using GP4000S and switched to GatorSkins, never to return.

Unfortunately I can't join this Saturday, but wish you will have better luck than me.

Eugen
Damn. I've just ordered two conti 4000s from wiggle. I guess gator skins are stronger?
 

bird

Speeding Up
Nov 30, 2010
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Kawasaki
#8
Damn. I've just ordered two conti 4000s from wiggle. I guess gator skins are stronger?
You mean the plural of GP4000 or the latest GP4000S?
The former I have never used, so can't say much (except the fact they come in colours, H-F Mike :D).
If you carefully stay away from roads with nasty debris, GP4000S should be fine IMO... just not good enough for THIS particular ride!
 

joewein

Maximum Pace
Oct 25, 2011
2,442
907
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Setagaya, Tokyo
joewein.net
#12
Sounds like you may find four legged company :eek:

This is a helluva ride. Even if RWGPS probably overestimates the climbing somewhat, it's going to be at least 3,400 m total. Can't join you as it's my brevet weekend.
 

Stormy

Speeding Up
Aug 2, 2012
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Minato
#13
Ok. Mission Complete. Changed the route a bit as to avoid the backside of Otoge. All in all 160km and 4,500m of climbing.

Amazing views of Fuji-san, little traffic (except on Route 20), a bit too hot for my taste, and fried legs :)
 
Likes: Doug3
Sep 2, 2009
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#17
Let's have a guess; he knows a lot of people who have had issues with the Gatorskins getting sliced sidewalls easily.
 

Gunjira

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Oct 2, 2009
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Tokyo
#19
From direct personal experience, no issues with punctures, but the protective webbing on the sidewall has a tendency to separate from the tire with too much UV.
Which is really a non-issue, since it doesn't affect performance of the tire at all. I'm on my 3rd gatorskin (rear only) and switched at around 8000-9000km. Thats two punctures in 20000km on Japanese roads including some really rough rindos. I'm sold...
 

Yamabushi

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Jun 1, 2010
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fudoushin.com
#20
Which is really a non-issue, since it doesn't affect performance of the tire at all. I'm on my 3rd gatorskin (rear only) and switched at around 8000-9000km. Thats two punctures in 20000km on Japanese roads including some really rough rindos. I'm sold...
I'm not having a go, mate, just sharing my experience. For the record, I like Gatorskins.