Help (Re)building a wheel (Stories of the noob)

Dec 17, 2011
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kanazawa
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Part of the Noob Chronicles.

I've been meaning to write this post for about a week now, so here it goes...
Last week I managed to break a spoke on a rebuilt wheel that I laced myself. You can see the results below.



Now, I want to use the hub again (a shimano 105 5700) and lace a new wheel. I'll probably go with a mavic open pro rim this time.

Question time:
1) I have no idea what's the appropriate spoke length that I should use. How can I calculate this? Any pointers? This is a rear wheel, so please take into account the difference between driveside and non-driveside.
2) Where could I get these spokes and nipples? Any online shop that you happen to suggest?

Cheers, and thanks in advance.

tl;dr: how to calculate appropriate spoke length, where to get spokes and nipples.
 

jdd

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Marios,

I had some wheels that I was having problems with (a long story), and took them to Kaga.

I'm not sure who there did the work, but they rebuilt them and I haven't had a single issue since. (And it's been years, and they've been ridden and loaded a lot.)

Also, while you're a student and I work, and we probably have a different idea of what is "reasonable", it wasn't at all expensive.
 
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FarEast

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Another method is lacing the wheel yourself and then taking it to a shop to be trued, my LBS actually prefer me to do this as then they only have to throw the wheel in the jig and 30 minutes later I have a racing wheel.

Although I think this would only work with a LBS that you frequent on a regular basis - so I'd ask before doing it.
 

kiwisimon

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I would contact @GSAstuto and ask him if he could in exchange for a couple of hours of menial labor have him run you through the process. You'll learn from a skilled technician and learn a heck of a lot more than you could in a book, failing that I like FE's idea do the measuring, lacing and then leave the most critical parts to the artists. Re the spoke tension meter, I don't think these are necessary for most folks, the rim is round at the get go so unless your a total clux and can't count rotations of a spoke wrench it's pretty hard top make it un-round. Hence the spoke tension should be near enough to the same. If the wheel is true and round then the rest looks after itself IMHO.
 
Dec 17, 2011
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kanazawa
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One more thing I want to ask is this: I've heard of Sapim and DT as reputable spoke makers, any other brand that I should consider using?

And what about single/double/triple(!) butted or aero spokes? Any distinct advantages/disadvantages regarding stretching/cushioning/durability? Please bear in mind that the wheel is mostly for casual riding and durability is the first requirement here, the wheel should comfortably be able to handle going on/off pavements. I feel a little bit ...uneasy with the slender double butted spokes, they look a bit flimsy to me, although I may be overreacting.

Cheers!
 

jdd

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Marios,

And another thought--can I give you (and your wheels) a ride to the Kaga shop? (>> I'll drive you there.) I'm not sure where I might meet you on the JAIST campus, but I'm sure I could get to the the front gate. I've got the coming few days kind of free, but then get busy/stretched at the weekend, since I'm traveling very early on the 2nd.