Ride Nichitsu

joewein

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Heading up to Nichitsu with Jose (@Jayves) on Sat morning, starting from the Tamagawa.

Meeting on the east bank of the Tamagawahara bridge on the Tamagawa (多摩川原橋, R19 / Tsurukawa Highway) at 05:00. Heading up to Oume, then via Yamabushi toge to Chichibu, from there will follow Pete's route from 2012-10-27.

Probably far too early for any autumn leaves, but it's been a while since we've been up there.

And of course this notice is far too late for anybody else to read it on time, unless you take a train to Chichibu (will probably be there around 10:00).
 

joewein

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Jose and I only discussed this ride the day before yesterday and finalized it last night.

I knew it was too early for autumn leaves, but wanted to re-familiarize myself with the course with an eye towards a possible Half-Fast mountain ride (Chichibu-Nichitsu-Chichibu), probably the first November weekend.

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I ran 20 minutes late for our meeting, because I had left home without my Canon S95 and had to turn back once. Running late for meetings with Jose is so common for me, I'm surprised he still agrees to go riding with me ;)

I was a beautiful clear day as we cycled up the Tamagawa towards Oume:
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Mt Fuji on the horizon:
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Not far from Oume we happened to bump into Steve who was heading the same way. We shopped at the Oume station conbini together and he decided to join us until Chichibu. We climbed Yamabushi toge together and later had a coffee break at the shopping centre:

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I recognized many of the locations from last year. Even without the colourful leaves it was really scenic.

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Nichitsu seemed much closer this time. Temperatures were much milder and we had more daylight than last year.

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Former public bath house:
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Nichitsu seemed much closer, or we were riding more quickly. The km markers by the side of the road on the final climb steadily decrease. The tunnel at the top is at around 1200 m and km marker 7.5. So if you see e.g. a 12 km marker, it means you're still 4.5 km from the top. It was about 140 km from Setagaya to the tunnel. The trip back to Seibu Chichibu station was another 40 km, mostly fast and downhill.

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We got changed into warmer clothes at the car park with toilets at the other side of the tunnel. I wore my dhb winter tights with my Bicycle Line winter jacket and gloves. It made a big difference. Later I took the jacket off again and changed back into fingerless gloves, because I felt too warm, but kept the long winter tights.

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It took me 3 hours to Oume (including camera detour), where we had a half hour break. From there to Chichibu was about another 2 hours. There we took a 40 minute coffee and food shopping break. Chichibu-Nichitsu(tunnel) took about 4 hours, including 20 min lunch break. After getting changed, the descent and return trip to the station took 2 hours.

Strava reported 3,571 calories burnt. I consumed 10 bananas, 3 onigiri, 2 pieces of pastry and a small pack of hoshi imo (dried sweet potato) and 5 or 6 bottles of water.

I was very satisfied with this ride and hope I'll be able to lead a ride there in November. Unfortunately I'll be gone for a week and two weekends for a business trip in late October, which otherwise would also have been candidates for ride dates.
 
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I want to go back and explore the village some more. If I'm not ride-healthy in time for your Nov. ride, then next year.

Meanwhile, Joe - pretty please put your saddlebag back on. Whatever marginal performance gain you have from the レジ袋 saddlebag is not worth it, mate.

It says "No smoking". Bazinga! 'Let's not smoke while walking around...'

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Phil

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Have you noticed Steve seems to crop up as a random encounter character in quite a few ride reports...? I think he's sneaking in quite a few more solo rides than he lets on... :)

Thanks for the report Joe, I enjoyed the pics and account. (The "no entry" sign is actually an admonishment not to smoke and walk, btw...)
 

Jayves

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Nichitsu seemed much closer, or we were riding more quickly.
I remember last year I was waiting for you for 'a period of time' on the top of Nichitsu and now I can barely keep up with you! I just can't imagine what will happen next year with your new 700c!


Meanwhile, Joe - pretty please put your saddlebag back on. Whatever marginal performance gain you have from the レジ袋 saddlebag is not worth it, mate.
I agree with this Joe and we debated this for a while to distract ourselves from the pains of the climb. Otherwise, remove also all the dangling decals in on the front for these marginal gains you are passionately looking for. Also, you were not able to observed directly but there was so much flapping going on these rubber banded container of yours behind you :)

Joe, btw, that was your last warning. no more excuses on tardiness :mad:
 

joewein

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Have you noticed Steve seems to crop up as a random encounter character in quite a few ride reports...? I think he's sneaking in quite a few more solo rides than he lets on... :)
It wasn't so long ago that I also bumped into him at the Half-Fast Okutama adventure with Warren and Fumi. He has less time available now as a father of a small child, but I'm also glad he still manages to find time to ride. Kids will grow up and one day they will also ride a bike! :)

Thanks for the report Joe, I enjoyed the pics and account. (The "no entry" sign is actually an admonishment not to smoke and walk, btw...)
This tells you something about my Kanji skills when I can't use Google translate. I saw the the 行 character and the prohibition and took a mental short cut.
 

joewein

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I want to go back and explore the village some more. If I'm not ride-healthy in time for your Nov. ride, then next year.
Good luck with the healing process for your arm. I see you're doing plenty of walking, which should keep your legs in shape.

I have pencilled in Saturday, November 2, with the Sunday as an alternative in case of bad weather. The two weekends before would probably also be suitable (assuming similar temperatures to last year) for viewing, but I'll be out of the country then. Hope you'll be able to join us by then, Mike.

Meanwhile, Joe - pretty please put your saddlebag back on. Whatever marginal performance gain you have from the レジ袋 saddlebag is not worth it, mate.
It was an experiment for the brevet, which got carried over into this ride because I don't have a more permanent solution yet.

I wanted something with less air resistance than my voluminous Carradice bag to be able to cruise with less effort at higher speeds and it worked. The downside is that it has no pockets and I basically have to take it all off, unwrap several layers and then dig for whatever I'm looking for amongst the multiple items in the bag, then reverse all steps, any time I need anything.

Inside I also had a soft backpack, which I could wear (with all my stuff inside) on my back when the bike was rinko-ed up for the train. This was much less convenient with the Carradice bag, which only comes with a shoulder strap, so I'd be walking through ticket gates with the bike hanging off one shoulder and the bag dangling off the other.

The rinko issue complicates things for large saddle bags with folding, because everything changes position in the folded state. This may change for me soon, as I have talked to Jules of Fairmean, who proposed making a custom back that would fit the Bike Friday in unfolded state.

Another advantage of the レジ袋 saddlebag is that it changes size as needed. The Carradice I bought is really a size too large for what I need. With this temporary bag I can simply look at pictures of the rides later and get a good idea what size bag I really need to carry my items when I go ahead and buy something new. I'll be looking for something that attaches to the seat post and is more long than wide. I've seen quite a few of them at the brevet.

Hopefully you won't have to bear the sight of it if and when you ride behind me at Nichitsu! :)
 

joewein

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I remember last year I was waiting for you for 'a period of time' on the top of Nichitsu and now I can barely keep up with you! I just can't imagine what will happen next year with your new 700c!
To be fair, it wasn't all my doing. While I was trying hard to prepare first for Norikura, then for the 600 km, I think you have had less chance for long rides in the last couple of months.

I am now at almost 1400 km for this month. I won't be able to do such distances every month.

Hope you'll have a great autumn viewing ride up in Aizu! Looking forward to the pictures :)

Joe, btw, that was your last warning. no more excuses on tardiness :mad:
Yes, SIR! :D

(Maybe I should target an arrival time at the meeting point 15 minutes before the one I tell you, because something always seems to come up that I haven't allowed time for.)
 
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Wonderful pictures, Joe, thanks for sharing. Good to know Steve is still cycling, and in his TCC gear on top of that! :)
Likewise, good to see you're still out there Thomas, ala "Serguei's Farewell Ride" ! The TCC kit is obligatory weekend wear... whether I'm on the bike or just doing grocery shopping in Seiyu...

Have you noticed Steve seems to crop up as a random encounter character in quite a few ride reports...? I think he's sneaking in quite a few more solo rides than he lets on...
Well Phil, I might have to start at 3 in the morning, or wait till 3 in the afternoon depending on the "domestic situation", but yes I am always out there. When you get that odd feeling that someone has been sucking your wheel for the last 10k, but you look round and nobody's there... well... that may have been me ... :)
 

joewein

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Pete, that's excellent news. We followed your course from last October for our tour, both the route you recommended from Oume to Chichibu and the main loop from Chichibu-Nichitsu-Chichibu, including all the back roads to minimize traffic and were very pleased with it.

BTW, the upper part of the descent from the tunnel (until you rejoin the main road) had a lot of debris on it, sharp edged gravel that had been washed across the road or fallen leaves. Braking in the wrong places or hitting the gravel at speed could have caused road rash or tyre damage. I descended with a lot of caution.
 
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Pete, that's excellent news. We followed your course from last October for our tour, both the route you recommended from Oume to Chichibu and the main loop from Chichibu-Nichitsu-Chichibu, including all the back roads to minimize traffic and were very pleased with it.

BTW, the upper part of the descent from the tunnel (until you rejoin the main road) had a lot of debris on it, sharp edged gravel that had been washed across the road or fallen leaves. Braking in the wrong places or hitting the gravel at speed could have caused road rash or tyre damage. I descended with a lot of caution.
Glad to hear the route was enjoyable for you! As for the post tunnel descent, unfortunately, I know first hand how much nasty debris is there. I got a gnarly sidewall rip/puncture the last time I was there!