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Recently there has been a lot or request for medical help or input in to many various ailments and conditions.

Like any “Bloke” I self medicate and self diagnose and although I would say I know my body incredibly well I cannot argue strongly enough to see professional sporting medical help.

To my knowledge nobody here is a qualified sports physician or a qualified physician and although we all have suffered from many different issues we are all different with different histories that have to be taken in to account when seeking help.

So rather than post your own diagnosis I would strongly suggest posting places you have had personal experience at that would help others.
I can recommend a few places for cycling or sports specific injuries:

Tsurugamine Hospital – Yokohama, Tsurugamine

All the Keirin Pros go here from breakages, surgeries and other bike related issues. Also they have several nurses married to professional cyclists so they know the deal also. (Don’t expect any sympathy though, especially from a certain one)

Sports Chiropractor – Yokohama, Kikuna
045-439-2145

This is the guy that sorted my back out after a cycling related injury and also Michael Owen’s groin injury during the world cup in Japan. This guy is good and will use various different methods and styles depending on your needs.

総合新 川橋病院 - Kawasaki
〒210-0013 神奈川県川崎市川崎区新川通１−１５ +81 44-222-2111 ‎

This is where the Olympic surgeon that specializes in Knee and ankle injuries works and was where I had my knee rebuilt and underwent rehabilitation. I’m not sure if he is still there. But I also needed a referal to see him that cost me 3,000 JPY.
 
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Good points. Any chance of turning this into a separate section (or just a sticky) as otherwise it might get lost/buried and the process will just repeat itself?
 
Acupuncture

I heartily recommend this acupuncture clinic:

Edward Obaidey Acupuncture Clinic
Acupuncture, Moxibustion & Shiatsu
Bilingual Staff (Japanese/English)

http://www.edwardshinkyu.com/

EDWARD ACUPUNCTURE CLINIC
Corp. Sangenjaya #301
2-17-12 Sangenjaya
Setagaya-ku, Tokyo
Tel/Fax: 03-3418-8989

He has successfully treated pinched nerves in both of my arms, and a nasty back/neck problem.

I have tried acupuncture in the past, and it was a total waste of time - however, Eddie (and his pupils) knows what he is doing!
 
Jerry Tokunaga - Upper Servical Chiropractic
his name no gaps @yahoo.co.jp

Highly recommend this guy. He is an ex-professional cyclist and rode for the Japanese National team - one of the trail blazers for the likes of Beppu and Yukiya. After blowing his back up trained and qualified as Chiropractor specailising in Upper Servical Chiropractic adjustments and has treated a lot of famous riders.

I've had two adjustments with Jerry as my body over compensates for the broken knee and I've had brilliant results in regards to balanced wattage output and sleep paterns.
 
Darn decent Ortho Hospital. They took care of Zair, btw ---

Haruyamageka Hospital
35.69838, 139.69753

If you have an accident around Shinjuku-ku and seem to have anything broken, this is where the ambulance will try to take you first off.
 
Ludwig said:
James, sounds like I could e-mail him in English?
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Yes he is totally fluent in Enlgish and he can come to you, mention that I refered him to you and you might get a cheaper deal....who knows? :D
 
Orthopedist verdict

THREE WEEKS ABSTINENCE FROM CYCLING ! :eek::eek::eek:

Orthopedist (Sanno Hospital) near my office told me muscle strain behind my left knee is at risk of becoming chronic and persistent. I guess that leaves me little choice. Very shocked and wearing bandage now.

Is my character strong enough...do I have the will power it takes to obey that order? :p1:
 
Time to jump on the fixed gear in a light ratio. This will both strengthen and shift your muscle usage so you offload the strain on your knee. Try it and see how you feel. Use a very light gear - like 42 /17 or 19. BTW - this is HOW I rehabbed my completely mangled knee as basically a continuance of what the Ortho started in the hospital. They had me on a special rotating trainer for several hours a day. It slowly increased the range of motion and the constant activity stimulated blood flow so the tissues and bone healed faster.

But - 3 weeks? Hmm, I'd get a 2nd opinion. Unless you have serious connectivity tissue damage I can't see how laying off the bike is better than alternate 'rehab' use of cycling. You may just need to layoff the 'Belgian Hard Man' training for awhile.

Anyway - this brings up a good point. We were taught to always practice agnostic cycling in order to keep our muscles from going stale AND from overtraining any specific muscle group (or over stressing). If you cycle the same way in a non-iterative manner, but just keep building load, you will eventually start to wear out some parts or start getting repetitive stress injury. The key is to engage in cyclic training so that you optimize muscle groups and holistically prepare them for peak efforts. Some of you guys (like Tom and Ludwig) are taking on some pretty epic challenges and rides that probably rank easily in the top 1 or 2% of all recreational cyclists. That's getting close to elite athlete level and things are likely to break if you're not careful.

TOM said:
THREE WEEKS ABSTINENCE FROM CYCLING ! :eek::eek::eek:

Orthopedist (Sanno Hospital) near my office told me muscle strain behind my left knee is at risk of becoming chronic and persistent. I guess that leaves me little choice. Very shocked and wearing bandage now.

Is my character strong enough...do I have the will power it takes to obey that order? :p1:
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GSAstuto said:
...You may just need to layoff the 'Belgian Hard Man' training for awhile...Some of you guys are taking on some pretty epic challenges and...things are likely to break if you're not careful.
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Tim, a lot of truth in there and I'm painfully aware of my own imbecilic cycling habits (I'm just after the endorphine which only kicks in if I keep adding distance and climbing). I'm paying the price now (and this is going to cost me dearly now that the most pleasant cycling weeks of the year have just begun) for my eccentricity :(.

About my Ti Eno-hubbed Kotei...the poor thing assembled with so much care by Hiroshi has been gathering dust for several months now. It's a shame. Never really got the hang of it although I tried to keep telling myself I did. Maybe the time has come to find a more fanatic future owner for it...:eek:uch:
 
Tom and Ludwig are partners in crime in epic and brutal rindo-fests. Both are now ordered off their bikes for several weeks. Coincidence, or .... they are more symbiotic than they had hoped for ...
 
Actually, it is really Tom more than me who is overdoing it :D He must have done about twice the mileage than me this year. I've done less than in previous years. But I've always had back problems while riding. It was probably only a matter of time until they would become really bad. I was always wondering when that might happen. Which is also why I am worried about the long-term consequences. Tom will recover easily if only he can control his cycling addiction for one or two weekends.

Meanwhile my condition keeps deteriorating. Since this morning I cannot walk properly any more. It's become a limping. About to head to the doctor for another ten minutes of high current.:rescue:
 
Ludwig said:
Actually, it is really Tom more than me who is overdoing it :D He must have done about twice the mileage than me this year. I've done less than in previous years. But I've always had back problems while riding. It was probably only a matter of time until they would become really bad. I was always wondering when that might happen. Which is also why I am worried about the long-term consequences. Tom will recover easily if only he can control his cycling addiction for one or two weekends.

Meanwhile my condition keeps deteriorating. Since this morning I cannot walk properly any more. It's become a limping. About to head to the doctor for another ten minutes of high current.:rescue:
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Please consider 'alternatives' like acupuncture and setai. 3 times in the last 15 years I have been 'saved' by non-mainstream gurus who saved me from catastrophe. No x-ray, just a quick feel, but in every case they fixed it in seconds - but it was always followed by a few months of follow-up consolidation and strengthening.

I am not spiritual by any means (far from it!), but I think 'alternative' practitioners have a lot to offer, IF they come recommended.
 
Ludwig said:
Actually, it is really Tom more than me who is overdoing it :D He must have done about twice the mileage than me this year.
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....wouldn't know; so far this year 13,980km but now I can kiss the 18,000km target farewell :eek:.
 
GSAstuto said:
Time to jump on the fixed gear in a light ratio. This will both strengthen and shift your muscle usage so you offload the strain on your knee. Try it and see how you feel. Use a very light gear - like 42 /17 or 19. BTW - this is HOW I rehabbed my completely mangled knee as basically a continuance of what the Ortho started in the hospital. They had me on a special rotating trainer for several hours a day. It slowly increased the range of motion and the constant activity stimulated blood flow so the tissues and bone healed faster.

But - 3 weeks? Hmm, I'd get a 2nd opinion. Unless you have serious connectivity tissue damage I can't see how laying off the bike is better than alternate 'rehab' use of cycling. You may just need to layoff the 'Belgian Hard Man' training for awhile.

Anyway - this brings up a good point. We were taught to always practice agnostic cycling in order to keep our muscles from going stale AND from overtraining any specific muscle group (or over stressing). If you cycle the same way in a non-iterative manner, but just keep building load, you will eventually start to wear out some parts or start getting repetitive stress injury. The key is to engage in cyclic training so that you optimize muscle groups and holistically prepare them for peak efforts. Some of you guys (like Tom and Ludwig) are taking on some pretty epic challenges and rides that probably rank easily in the top 1 or 2% of all recreational cyclists. That's getting close to elite athlete level and things are likely to break if you're not careful.
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snoogly said:
Please consider 'alternatives' like acupuncture and setai. 3 times in the last 15 years I have been 'saved' by non-mainstream gurus who saved me from catastrophe. No x-ray, just a quick feel, but in every case they fixed it in seconds - but it was always followed by a few months of follow-up consolidation and strengthening.

I am not spiritual by any means (far from it!), but I think 'alternative' practitioners have a lot to offer, IF they come recommended.
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What was the purpose of this thread again? :confused:
 
TOM said:
Tim, a lot of truth in there and I'm painfully aware of my own imbecilic cycling habits (I'm just after the endorphine which only kicks in if I keep adding distance and climbing).
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Try adding more intensity; that works for me. How much time do you spend riding at L5/L6 levels? I recommend 2 tabata intervals for pennance. :angel:
 
Can anyone recommend a knee specialist in the shinjuku or Nerima areas?
 
theBlob said:
Can anyone recommend a knee specialist in the shinjuku or Nerima areas?
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Nakagawa-sensei of Tokyo Univ HP. Getting an appointment with him at Todai HP will take many months, so best to catch him Thursday afternoons at Sekino Hospital, Ikebukuro (関野病院), 3-28-3 Ikebukuro, Toshima-ku // tel 03-3986-5501 // 10min fro Kitabukuro Exit, #5 Ikebukuro-line of Shuto Kosoku (a bit tricky to find without a map)
 
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