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If they're tektro r317 find something else. I had a bike with those fitted and even with the pads changed out for Shimano or Kool stop there was absolutely no power in them. They were bad enough I changed them after a couple of rides for some Shimano r451 which worked fine.yep, 2020 bike that will take 32C tires so long reach. I have some TPRs lined up but was wondering what else might be floating around.