4/15 Enzan to Tokyo via Otoge, Rt35

Gunjira

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While I still have to fight for my right to ride on the day, this is my planned route:

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1074834

The plan is to train into Enzan via Takao arriving with the 9:37 train and then take it from there. The climbing figure from ridewithgps seems to be slightly high (4000m+), but the focus will be on slow and steady first and faster on the rt35 section.

As I haven't ridden otoge before, I am looking for some input from more knowledgeable riders. Between km28-29 google map shows no connecting road for about 200meters. Do the roads connect, even if it is just a rindo?
 

dgl2

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Hi Gunnar. I would love to join and looks like a great route ... but I will be doing the Yatsugatake hill climb on Sunday morning.

I had no idea there was a road between Kamihikawa and Otoge ... you might want to ping Ludwig K. and Tom S. see if either knows if it is real, what the condition is, etc. if they don't see your thread.
 

joewein

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While I still have to fight for my right to ride on the day, this is my planned route:

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1074834
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As I haven't ridden otoge before, I am looking for some input from more knowledgeable riders. Between km28-29 google map shows no connecting road for about 200meters. Do the roads connect, even if it is just a rindo?
I've been hiking on Daibosatsurei a couple of km to the north (September, October and January) - great hiking area with superb views, but pretty steep hills.

Looking at the satellite view on Google maps, even the "roads" at both ends of your km 28 gap look more like dirt tracks than surfaced roads to me. You're not mountain biking, are you? ;)

Personally I'd stick to roads the size of 201/218 if you prefer surfaced roads and not carrying bikes through the forest.
 

GSAstuto

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As far as I inspected, o toge is a one way route unless you want to walk , hike and rough it MTV style.

dgl2;44320 said:
Hi Gunnar. I would love to join and looks like a great route ... but I will be doing the Yatsugatake hill climb on Sunday morning.

I had no idea there was a road between Kamihikawa and Otoge ... you might want to ping Ludwig K. and Tom S. see if either knows if it is real, what the condition is, etc. if they don't see your thread.
 

Gunjira

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When doing the Shikoku pilgrimage, I carried bike and luggage over a rough mountain path for kilometers. Just to be able to tell about it now! ;)

Rather off the beaten path, where you find some adventure
 

TOM

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Gunnar hi,

I took a good look at your map with side entrance to Otoge. I've been very close to that area (from the other Otsuki direction) but continued all the way over Kamihikawa-toge (Daibosatsu-toge). This was a new rindo Ludwig and I explored and it was in wonderful pristine condition the higher up we got (it goes up higher than the more obvious road connecting Koshukaido to Kamihikawa-toge. On your map, it doesn't look like that side road actually connects to Otoge - it could indeed be a dirt road. It is a nice discovery though worth trying. Good luck! Below for your perusal my own blog entry and Ludwig's Garmin route.

Cheers,

Tom

http://vlaamsewielrenner.blogspot.jp/2011/09/yakiyamasawamakinishia-new-rindo.html

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/115250066